
That UFO Podcast
Science Podcasts
Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
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Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena Hosted by Andy McGrillen
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Episodes
Whitley Strieber: “I Thought They’d Taken My Son” | Disclosure, Visitors and Trauma
4/14/2026
Whitley Strieber returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss Transformation 2026, and this is one of the most personal and unsettling conversations we’ve had.
Whitley reflects on the terrifying night he believed his young son had been taken, the wider impact these experiences had on his family, and why he feels the world may be moving toward a form of disclosure that will affect far more than politics. We also get into hybrids, telepathy, trauma, religion, consciousness, and what life could look like in a genuine post-disclosure world.
Whether you agree with Whitley or not, this is a fascinating deep dive into one of the most controversial voices in the UFO conversation.
In this episode:
The night Whitley thought his son had been taken
Why he brought Transformation back in 2026
How these experiences affected his family
His thoughts on disclosure and ontological shock
Why he rejects the idea that the visitors are simply demonic or angelic
Hybrids, telepathy, and the long-term human implications of contact
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Duration:01:15:57
Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch Part 2: Dire Wolves, Portals, Cryptids and the Evidence
4/10/2026
In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.
Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.
This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.
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Duration:01:19:10
Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch: UFOs, Animal Anomalies and a Portal Incident
4/9/2026
Ben Woodruff joins me to talk about his background as a biologist, his own childhood UFO sighting, and how he ended up working on Skinwalker Ranch before the TV series began.
In Part 1, we get into what Ben says he experienced during his earliest time on the ranch, including strange voices, unsettling activity inside the ranch house, and the biological anomalies that first made him realise this place was different. We also discuss the balance between real science and television, what frustrates him about NDA restrictions, and a remarkable story involving one of his trained falcons that he says disappeared in front of them during an experiment on the ranch.
This is a fascinating opening half of a conversation that builds from personal experience into some of the biggest claims Ben says he has witnessed firsthand.
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Duration:00:49:10
Westall 66 Revisited: Shane Ryan on Australia’s Schoolyard UFO Mystery
4/6/2026
On the 60th anniversary of the Westall incident, I’m re-releasing this conversation with researcher Shane Ryan, originally recorded in December 2022.
Shane has spent years investigating one of the most remarkable mass sighting cases in UFO history: the 1966 Westall event in Melbourne, Australia, where students, teachers, and others reported seeing strange flying saucer-shaped objects over and near the school grounds.
In this interview, Shane breaks down what witnesses said they saw, the reported aftermath on the ground, the response from authorities, and why the case still stands as one of the most important and debated schoolyard UFO encounters ever reported.
If you’re new to the Westall case, or want to revisit one of the most compelling incidents from outside the United States, this is a great place to start.
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Duration:01:12:08
Congress Was Briefed on Alien Hybrids?
4/3/2026
On this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by Dan Zetterstrom to break down one of the busiest weeks in the UFO space.
They get into Matt Gaetz and the alien hybrid briefing claims, Tim Burchett’s latest comments about what he says would keep the public up at night, and Anna Paulina Luna’s push for specific UAP videos from Pete Hegseth by April 14th. They also discuss the mystery around General Neil McCasland, the strange appearance of aliens.gov, Bill Maher’s recent UFO segment, new projects linked to Steven Greer and Bob Lazar, and the latest on Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day movie.
A wide ranging news roundup with plenty to dig into.
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Duration:01:27:19
Darcy Weir on Dark Alliance, Corey Goode and the Secret Space Program
4/1/2026
Andy is joined by documentary filmmaker Darcy Weir to discuss his film Dark Alliance: The Inside Story of the Cosmic Con and the wider world of Secret Space Program claims, Corey Goode, David Wilcock and the ecosystem that has grown around some of the biggest personalities in ufology.
They talk about why these stories gain traction, the crossover between entertainment and belief, the role of platforms like Gaia, and how difficult it can be for audiences to separate genuine mystery from elaborate storytelling. They also touch on Steven Greer, Chris Bledsoe, Bob Lazar, whistleblowers, and why critical thinking matters more than ever in a space where extraordinary claims continue to spread.
This is a conversation about belief, influence, exploitation, and the parts of the UFO topic that deserve much closer scrutiny.
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Duration:01:17:04
Timothy Alberino on UFOs, Ancient Civilizations and the Mystery Schools
3/30/2026
Author, researcher and explorer Timothy Alberino joins me for a deep dive into UFOs, ancient civilizations, biblical history and the mystery schools. We talk about Tim’s formative years in Peru, his own close encounter, and why he sees the modern disclosure conversation as part of a much older and more complex story.
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Duration:01:10:07
Matthew Brown, McCasland Mystery, Beatriz Breakthrough and Aliens.gov
3/26/2026
Andy is back with a packed UFO news update after a couple of weeks away.
This episode covers Matthew Brown’s latest claims around Immaculate Constellation and why he says whistleblowers are being lured, targeted and trapped. Andy also looks at the still unresolved disappearance of retired Major General Neil McCasland, why the case is gaining more attention, and how the Monica Reza link is adding even more intrigue.
There is also a scientific update on the work of Dr Beatriz Villarroel, with new research adding support to the idea that strange transient objects may have been captured on old pre-Sputnik sky survey plates. Plus, thoughts on the White House registering aliens.gov and alien.gov, what it may mean, and why expectations should stay in check.
Also in this episode:
Bob Lazar’s new S4 documentary
Steven Greer’s Washington DC event in May
Listener questions on Gary McKinnon, disclosure, AARO, whistleblowers and more
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Duration:00:32:27
What Happens After Disclosure? Listener AMA
3/24/2026
Andy answers listener questions on disclosure, secrecy, post-disclosure life, black triangles, biologics versus AI probes, the nature of the phenomenon, disinformation, standards of proof, and the voices in ufology that have influenced his thinking most.
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Duration:00:57:11
James Fox on New UFO Videos, AARO and the Threats Behind Disclosure
3/20/2026
James Fox returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss what he believes may be coming next from the US government, including the possibility of new UFO videos being released, what he’s hearing from members of Congress, and why he thinks major developments could still lie ahead. We also talk AARO, secrecy, Roswell-era intimidation, witness pressure, Varginha, and whether disclosure is finally moving into a new phase.
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Duration:01:03:36
Omnibus: Richard Dolan on the Modern UFO Story
3/18/2026
This omnibus brings together highlights from my first three conversations with Richard Dolan, covering the modern UFO story from 2017 to today. We discuss how the topic has changed through hearings, whistleblowers, David Grusch, AARO, and why USOs may be an increasingly important part of the mystery. A strong overview of where the conversation stands now from one of the most respected historians on the subject.
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Duration:05:19:23
Bryce Zabel & Brent Friedman on Hollywood, Dark Skies and UFO Disclosure
3/13/2026
On this episode of That UFO Podcast, I’m joined by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman to discuss the launch of their new podcast, Sound, Light, Frequency.
Bryce returns to the show, while Brent makes his first appearance, and together we get into a wide-ranging conversation on Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, insider influence, and how entertainment may have shaped public perception of the UFO topic for decades.
We discuss Brent’s remarkable early experience being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to them around Dark Skies, whether those kinds of quiet conversations are still happening today, and what they now believe about the subject after years of working around it.
We also talk about the new podcast, why now felt like the right time to launch it, what they hope to do with it, and how they see the current state of UFO disclosure in 2026.
This is a fascinating discussion on storytelling, secrecy, media, and the ever-blurring line between fiction and reality.
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Duration:01:10:20
Mark Christopher Lee on the July 8 Trump UFO Speech Claim
3/11/2026
Mark Christopher Lee joins me to discuss the controversy surrounding his claims that President Trump was set to deliver a UFO disclosure speech on July 8.
We discuss the two sources Mark says gave him the information, why he trusted them, what happened with the alleged May 1 Washington press conference, and why he now feels he may have been misled.
We also talk about Mark’s background in the UFO subject, the paranormal side of the phenomenon, and the wider issue of accountability when big claims are made in this topic.
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Duration:00:53:07
Eric Davis, Eric Weinstein, Withheld UAP Videos & Portal Claims
3/10/2026
In this news update, Andy breaks down one of the most interesting recent public conversations on UFOs, as Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein go back and forth on interdimensional language, David Grusch, physics, secrecy and why alleged crash-retrieval programs still seem so difficult to understand.
Also in this episode: Weinstein’s appearance on Piers Morgan, the renewed attention on Havana Syndrome after 60 Minutes, Eric Burlison’s first site visit and why Pax River remains a facility of interest, Tim Burchett pressing President Trump on disclosure, Ross Coulthart’s latest claims about withheld UAP videos, portal allegations, and the disappearance of General Neil McCasland.
Topics include:
Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein on American Alchemy
Grusch, “interdimensional beings” and the language problem
Why alleged crash programs may not involve top physicists
Piers Morgan, Epstein, conspiracy language and UFO secrecy
Havana Syndrome and why it matters to the wider conversation
Burlison’s site visit, Pax River and requests for specific UFO files
Tim Burchett’s latest comments on Trump and disclosure
Ross Coulthart on withheld videos, portals and McCasland
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Duration:00:31:46
Congressman Given Access To UFO Reverse Engineering Sites | UAP Files Release Update
3/4/2026
In this UFO news update, Andy breaks down several significant developments in the ongoing UAP disclosure conversation.
A sitting U.S. Congressman has revealed he received approval from the White House to visit facilities allegedly connected to reverse engineering programs involving non-human technology. The visit was scheduled for the end of February, raising the question of whether that inspection may have already taken place.
At the same time, the Pentagon’s UAP office, AARO, says it is now working directly with the White House to consolidate and release previously unseen UAP records.
Also discussed in this episode:
• Hillary Clinton questioned about UFO disclosure during a recent deposition
• Ross Coulthart’s report of an alleged restricted “portal” site in the United States
• Avi Loeb and the Galileo Project building a scientific system to detect UAP
• The reported disappearance of retired U.S. Air Force Major General Neil McCasland, previously linked to early disclosure discussions connected to Tom DeLonge
Taken together, these developments suggest the UFO conversation continues to evolve at multiple levels — government oversight, scientific investigation, and public debate.
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Duration:00:19:14
What Does China Really Know About UFOs? Richard Dolan
3/2/2026
In this episode, Richard Dolan returns to discuss China’s approach to the UFO phenomenon.
From the Mao era suppression of UFO reports to the post-1976 explosion of sightings, we explore how China has handled unidentified aerial phenomena politically, culturally and militarily.
We also examine:
Whether China operates a structured military filtering system for UFO reports
How reverse engineering might be approached inside a highly centralised state
Whether China or Russia would treat disclosure differently from the United States
The geopolitical implications of advanced non-human technology
This conversation expands on our previous discussion and shifts the focus toward China’s long-term strategy, national security culture and how the UFO question fits into a global context.
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Duration:01:11:05
SOTU Silence, Pentagon UFO File Review, Elizondo 2027 Comments and Media Debate
2/27/2026
This week the UFO conversation did not explode but it shifted.
No mention of UFOs in the State of the Union. The Pentagon confirms file reviews are underway. Luis Elizondo references 2027 and 2036. Jeremy Corbell debates Michael Shermer on mainstream television. Rumours of an artificial object continue to circulate. Gary McKinnon resurfaces in a rare interview. And Navy pilots Ryan Graves and Alex Dietrich call for transparency and patience.
This episode is a pulse check on where the UFO topic stands right now.
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Duration:00:15:40
Richard Dolan on Trump, Disclosure and Why Contact May Never Happen
2/26/2026
Last week both Barack Obama and Donald Trump publicly addressed aliens and UFOs, triggering global reaction and renewed calls for transparency.
But what if disclosure is not what people think it is?
In this in depth conversation, Richard Dolan breaks down Trump’s directive to identify and release UFO files, the role of the intelligence community, compartmentation inside the Department of Defense and Department of Energy, and why Presidents may not control the deepest secrets.
We explore the difference between disclosure and contact, whether non human intelligences have any motivation to engage with humanity, and what realistic outcomes could follow from political pressure in Washington.
Is meaningful disclosure actually possible, or are the structures of secrecy too deeply embedded?
This is a sober analysis of where the UFO issue stands right now.
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Duration:01:28:52
A UFO Too Big To Move: The South Korea Theory Examined
2/24/2026
A UFO so large it could not be transported. That was the claim made by investigative journalist Ross Coulthart in 2023. According to the story, a structure was built over the craft because it was simply too big to move, and the location was said to be outside of the United States.
Since then, speculation has ranged from Pine Gap in Australia to secure facilities in Nevada and Europe. More recently, attention has focused on a specific site in South Korea.
In this episode, Andy revisits the origins of the Too Big To Move claim and outlines the criteria such a site would need to meet, including long term security, government control, and the infrastructure to sustain secrecy.
Researcher Ryan Purkey joins the show to examine the geography, tunnel systems, military presence, and scientific facilities that have brought renewed focus to the location near Anyang.
Is this a credible investigative lead, or another case of speculation attaching itself to a secure installation? We break down what can be tested and what remains unverified.
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Duration:00:20:27
Congress Reacts To Trump’s UFO Comments
2/21/2026
In what may prove to be a historic week, both a former President and a sitting President have spoken openly about aliens and UFOs.
Now the reaction is coming in from high-level voices across government and the UFO community.
In this rapid update, Andy breaks down:
• Congressman Jared Moskowitz suggesting bipartisan action
• Jay Stratton calling this a landmark moment
• Lue Elizondo thanking President Trump for taking steps toward disclosure
• Chris Mellon warning of the complexities ahead
• Senator Kirsten Gillibrand urging follow-through
• Sean Kirkpatrick dismissing the entire moment as distraction
Is this the beginning of meaningful action… or another cycle of political noise?
Plus listener reactions and what could happen next.
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Duration:00:21:34