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Catholic podcasts dedicated to those on the spiritual journey! Offering the best teachings from the rich Catholic Spiritual/Discernment tradition.
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http://www.discerninghearts.com/
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Episodes
GWWL9 – Herman Melville – Moby Dick – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/17/2026
Herman Melville – Moby Dick – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce
In this episode of The Great Works in Western Literature, Kris McGregor and Joseph Pearce explore Herman Melville’s Moby-Dick, a towering work of American literature that moves far beyond a simple sea adventure into a profound meditation on the human soul. Pearce reflects on Melville’s life, noting how the author sacrificed popularity and financial success to pursue deeper truths about existence, suffering, and the mystery of good and evil. Through the contrasting figures of Ishmael and Captain Ahab, the novel presents a powerful study of the human journey, revealing the difference between a life open to growth and wisdom and one consumed by pride and obsession.
The discussion highlights the spiritual and philosophical depth of Moby-Dick, particularly its engagement with questions of providence, suffering, and the limits of human understanding. Ahab’s relentless pursuit of the white whale becomes a symbol of destructive pride, while Ishmael’s survival points toward humility and the possibility of insight gained through experience. Pearce also emphasizes Melville’s exploration of the tension between material knowledge and deeper truth, showing how facts alone cannot satisfy the human search for meaning. Ultimately, the novel stands as a cautionary tale about the dangers of self-absorption and the necessity of looking beyond oneself toward truth, grace, and wisdom.
You can purchase a copy of the book here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
Moby-Dick
You can learn more about Joseph’s books, teaching, and writing by visiting his website Joseph Pearce: Celebrating the True, the Good and the Beautiful at jpearce.co
A native of England, Joseph Pearce is the internationally acclaimed author of many books, which include bestsellers such as The Quest for Shakespeare, Tolkien: Man and Myth, The Unmasking of Oscar Wilde, C. S. Lewis and The Catholic Church, Literary Converts, Wisdom and Innocence: A Life of G.K. Chesterton, Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile and Old Thunder: A Life of Hilaire Belloc. His books have been published and translated into Spanish, Portuguese, French, Dutch, Italian, Korean, Mandarin, Croatian, and Polish.
He has hosted two 13-part television series about Shakespeare on EWTN, and has also written and presented documentaries on EWTN on the Catholicism of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. His verse drama, Death Comes for the War Poets, was performed off-Broadway to critical acclaim. He has participated and lectured at a wide variety of international and literary events at major colleges and universities in the U.S., Canada, Britain, Europe, Africa, and South America.
He is a Visiting Professor of Literature at Ave Maria University and a Visiting Chair of Catholic Studies at Thomas More College of Liberal Arts (Merrimack, New Hampshire). He is editor of the St. Austin Review, series editor of the Ignatius Critical Editions, senior instructor with Homeschool Connections, and senior contributor at the Imaginative Conservative and Crisis Magazine. His personal website is www.jpearce.co.
Duration:00:28:24
POA2 – Why does God allow evil? – Put On The Armor – A Manual for Spiritual Warfare w/Dr. Paul Thigpen Ph.D. – Discerning Hears Catholic Podcasts
4/17/2026
Episode 1 – “Why does God allow evil” – Put on The Armor – A Manual for Spiritual Warfare with Dr. Paul Thigpen, Ph.D
In this episode of Put on the Armor: A Manual for Spiritual Warfare, Dr. Paul Thigpen and Kris McGregor deepen the conversation by reflecting on St. Paul’s call in Ephesians to “put on the armor of God.” Dr. Thigpen explains that spiritual warfare is not reduced to a few prayers or techniques, but is bound up with the whole Christian life. Growth in holiness, communion with God, and the cultivation of virtue form the true armor of the disciple. Faith, hope, love, humility, and wisdom are not abstract ideals. They are concrete protections that help the soul resist the lies, temptations, and assaults of the enemy. The closer one draws to God, the less power deception has over the heart.
The episode also takes up the difficult but necessary question of why God allows the devil to tempt and afflict human beings. Drawing from Scripture, St. Augustine, St. Catherine of Siena, St. John Vianney, and St. Bernard of Clairvaux, Dr. Thigpen shows that God permits temptation not for our destruction but for our strengthening, purification, and deeper reliance on grace. Listeners are encouraged to use the Word of God as Christ did in the desert, to persevere in prayer, and to take refuge in Our Lady, whose obedience and maternal aid remain powerful in the spiritual battle. This conversation is sober but filled with hope, reminding us that the enemy is real, but Christ has conquered, and the faithful are never left defenseless
A SPECIAL NOTE: We mourn the death of Dr. Paul Thigpen on February 24, 2026. He was a good friend, supporter, and contributor to Discerning Hearts. We will miss him deeply and will continue to share his ministry with gratitude and prayer.
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Put On The Armor – A Manual for Spiritual Warfare w/Dr. Paul Thigpen, Ph.D.
The “Manual for Spiritual Warfare” can be found here
Paul Thigpen, Ph.D., was the Editor of TAN Books in Charlotte, North Carolina. An internationally known speaker, best-selling author, and award-winning journalist, Paul published forty-three books in a wide variety of genres and subjects: history and biography, spirituality and apologetics, anthologies and devotionals, family life and children’s books, study guides and reference works, and fiction and collections of poetry and prayers.
Paul graduated from Yale University in 1977, summa cum laude, with Distinction in Religious Studies and membership in Phi Beta Kappa. He was later awarded the George W. Woodruff Fellowship at Emory University in Atlanta, where he earned an M.A. (1993) and a Ph.D. (1995) in Historical Theology. In 1993, he was named a Jacob K. Javits Fellow by the U.S. Department of Education. He has served on the faculty of several universities and colleges.
In 2008, Paul was appointed to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ National Advisory Council for a four-year term. He served the Church as a theologian, historian, apologist, evangelist, and catechist in a number of settings, speaking frequently in Catholic and secular media broadcasts and at conferences, seminars, parish missions, and scholarly gatherings.
Duration:00:27:57
HR 8 – In place of idleness, work – The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/16/2026
In place of idleness, work – The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B
In this episode of The Holy Rule of St. Benedict: A Spiritual Path for Today’s World, Fr. Mauritius Wilde, OSB, and Kris McGregor reflect on Chapter 48 of the Rule and the teaching that “idleness is the enemy of the soul.” While modern culture often leans toward constant activity, St. Benedict offers a deeper understanding of work, not as mere productivity, but as a means of spiritual formation. He establishes a rhythm of manual labor, prayer, and sacred reading, ensuring that work does not dominate the heart but serves the life of prayer.
Fr. Mauritius explains that work becomes spiritually fruitful when it is balanced, rooted in humility, and united with love. When work overtakes prayer or becomes a source of pride or identity, it can become spiritually harmful. Yet even the most ordinary or difficult tasks can be transformed when offered for others and united to God. In this way, Benedictine wisdom reveals that work is not the goal, but a tool that frees the heart for prayer, helping us live more fully in God’s presence.
From the Holy Rule of St. Benedict Chapter 48:
CHAPTER XLVIII
Of the Daily Work
Idleness is the enemy of the soul; and therefore the brethren ought to be employed in manual labor at certain times, at others, in devout reading. Hence, we believe that the time for each will be properly ordered by the following arrangement; namely, that from Easter till the calends of October, they go out in the morning from the first till about the fourth hour, to do the necessary work, but that from the fourth till about the sixth hour they devote to reading. After the sixth hour, however, when they have risen from table, let them rest in their beds in complete silence; or if, perhaps, anyone desireth to read for himself, let him so read that he doth not disturb others. Let None be said somewhat earlier, about the middle of the eighth hour; and then let them work again at what is necessary until Vespers.
If, however, the needs of the place, or poverty should require that they do the work of gathering the harvest themselves, let them not be downcast, for then are they monks in truth, if they live by the work of their hands, as did also our forefathers and the Apostles. However, on account of the faint-hearted let all things be done with moderation.
From the calends of October till the beginning of Lent, let them apply themselves to reading until the second hour complete. At the second hour let Tierce be said, and then let all be employed in the work which hath been assigned to them till the ninth hour. When, however, the first signal for the hour of None hath been given, let each one leave off from work and be ready when the second signal shall strike. But after their repast, let them devote themselves to reading or the psalms.
During the Lenten season let them be employed in reading from morning until the third hour, and till the tenth hour let them do the work which is imposed on them. During these days of Lent let all received books from the library, and let them read them through in order. These books are to be given out at the beginning of the Lenten season.
Above all, let one or two of the seniors be appointed to go about the monastery during the time that the brethren devote to reading and take notice, lest perhaps a slothful brother be found who giveth himself up to idleness or vain talk, and doth not attend to his reading, and is unprofitable, not only to himself, but disturbeth also others. If such a one be found (which God forbid), let him be punished once and again. If he doth not amend, let him come under the correction of the Rule in such a way that others may fear. And let not brother join brother at undue times.
On Sunday also let all devote themselves to reading, except those who are appointed to the various functions. But if anyone should be so careless and slothful that he will not or cannot meditate or...
Duration:00:23:52
SJ3 – Prosperity and It’s Price – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/14/2026
Prosperity and It’s Price – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina
Mike Aquilina explores the broader world Joseph lived in, including the complex figure of Herod the Great—an accomplished but deeply troubled ruler whose achievements brought prosperity while his paranoia and cruelty alienated his people.
He also explains the challenge of reconstructing Joseph’s life due to limited direct records, unlike more documented figures like Herod to bring his character into clearer view. This episode examines questions about Joseph’s lineage, age, and vocation, presenting historically plausible explanations and pushing back against exaggerated portrayals. Joseph is depicted as a strong, skilled craftsman shaped by a culture that valued labor and was marked by intense religious expectation.
The book considers possible influences from groups like the Essenes, suggesting that elements such as celibacy within marriage and heightened spiritual awareness would not have been unusual in that time, helping illuminate the unique calling of the Holy Family. Joseph’s formation stands out: raised in a devout, working family, trained in both faith and trade, and shaped by traditions tied to King David. His life, though hidden, unfolds within a larger drama where divine purpose quietly advances despite political corruption and human ambition.
You can find the book on which this series is based here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
About the Book
He is a man of many titles. Head of the Holy Family. Spouse of the Blessed Virgin. Guardian of Our Lord. Terror of Demons.
Though he is only briefly mentioned in the Bible, and never once has a quote attributed to him. St. Joseph is likely the best-known “silent” character in all of history, but theologians have spent centuries contemplating him.
In St. Joseph and His World, author Mike Aquilina skillfully paints a portrait of St. Joseph by contrasting him with someone who affected his life in many ways—King Herod the Great.
Aquilina invites readers into the life of St. Joseph—an heir of David with quiet beginnings, anticipating the promised Messiah. Conversely, he reveals Herod for who he was–a sociopathic warlord, prone to wicked jealousy and paranoia.
Drawing on modern and archaeological texts, Aquilina sheds light on a remarkable number of mysteries in the life of this revered saint. Was Joseph the decrepit old man he is often depicted as in art? Did the residents of Nazareth expect the Messiah to be one of their own? What did Joseph’s education and job training entail? Why would he contemplate divorcing Mary after the angel Gabriel’s visit? Was the flight to Egypt meticulously executed, or hastily carried out? What did the Holy Family do during the memorable trip to Jerusalem when Jesus was found in the Temple?
Josephologists across the centuries have contemplated the life and character of the Angelic Man. In this definitive work, Mike Aquilina takes the brilliantly uncomplicated approach that, by familiarizing ourselves with St. Joseph’s world: his hometown, his trade, and his faith, we can draw closer to him and ultimately, draw closer to Christ.
About the Author
Mike Aquilina is a popular author working in the area of Church history, especially patristics, the study of the early Church Fathers.[1] He is the executive vice-president and trustee of the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, a Roman Catholic research center based in Steubenville, Ohio. He is a contributing editor of Angelus (magazine) and general editor of the Reclaiming Catholic History Series from Ave Maria Press. He is the author or editor of more than fifty books, including The Fathers of the Church (2006); The Mass of the Early Christians (2007); Living the Mysteries (2003); and What Catholics Believe(1999). He has hosted eleven television series on the Eternal Word Television Network and is a frequent guest commentator on Catholic radio.
For more episodes in this series visit – St. Joseph and His...
Duration:00:29:58
SISL13 – I Feel Alone- Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/13/2026
I Feel Alone – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher O.M.V.
Fr. Timothy Gallagher illustrates the struggles in the process of discernment with Kathy’s story, a woman who, after experiencing spiritual closeness with God, is confronted by a deeply buried pain triggered during prayer. Kathy feels abandoned by God, prompting her to stop praying and isolate herself emotionally. Guided by her spiritual director, Fr. Reed, Kathy learns that she can openly share her pain and anger with God, drawing on examples from the Psalms and the Book of Job, where people express their raw emotions before God.
Through this honest dialogue, Kathy finds a path back to a real and growing relationship with God, learning that spiritual desolation can sometimes serve as a gateway to greater intimacy with Him. Fr. Gallagher emphasizes that while desolation may make us feel distant from God, the experience can deepen our relationship with Him if we remain faithful, seek guidance, and avoid making drastic changes to our spiritual practices.
You can pick up a copy of the book here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
An excerpt from the chapter, “I Feel Alone “:
“In a final form of spiritual desolation, Ignatius tells us, a person feels “as if separated from his Creator and Lord.” Cathy experiences this strongly in the weeks described: “All that closeness and warmth of God’s love? It’s gone like smoke. . . . I’m sitting in the kitchen as I write, and I feel like I’m here, and God is a million miles away.” I’m here, and God is a million miles away. I’m here, sitting in my kitchen, alone in my apartment, commuting to work, driving to pick up the children, sitting at my computer . . . and you are a million miles away, distant, remote.
Have you ever felt that? Yes, certainly, you have, and I have. Once more: no shame, no surprise; be aware, identify, reject.”
Gallagher O.M.V, Fr. Timothy ; Gallagher O.M.V, Fr. Timothy. Struggles in the Spiritual Life: Their Nature and Their Remedies (p. 89). Sophia Institute Press. Kindle Edition.
To find more episodes from this series, visit the Struggles in the Spiritual Life Podcast
From the book’s description:
“Here is a powerful, life-changing book that will help you understand and conquer the struggles you face in your spiritual life. It’s a book for those who love the Lord and desire holiness yet often feel adrift or stagnant in their search for spiritual growth.
All of us encounter valleys on our journey with the Lord — those periods of spiritual desolation that are a painful yet unavoidable feature of our prayer life. Spiritual desolation is as complex as we are, so understanding what is happening and responding to it properly are critical to reaching the heights of holiness.
With warmth and understanding, Fr. Gallagher carefully identifies in this book the various forms of spiritual and nonspiritual desolation and supplies the remedy for each. You’ll learn how to discern whether your struggles derive from medical or psychological conditions or whether those struggles are spiritual and permitted by the Lord for reasons of growth. In each case, you’ll be given the remedy for the struggle. You’ll also learn the forms of spiritual dryness and of the Dark Night — and how to respond to them.
In chapter after chapter, Fr. Gallagher presents a particular struggle as experienced by fictional characters and then provides the advice he gives to those who come to him for spiritual direction about that struggle. You’ll gain confidence as you journey through desolation, and you’ll learn to reject the enemy’s ploys to infect you with a sense of hopelessness.“
Did you know that Fr. Timothy Gallagher has 14 different podcast series on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts?
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Duration:00:32:53
Mike Pacer – Mercy and Hope on Inside the Pages with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/10/2026
Mike Pacer – Mercy and Hope on Inside the Pages with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcast
In this episode of Inside the Pages, Kris McGregor speaks with Mike Pacer, author of Mercy and Hope, about the transforming power of God’s mercy and the deep Christian call to live in hope. Drawing from his own spiritual journey, Mike reflects on how many Catholics grow up with a sense of guilt, shame, and the feeling that God’s love must somehow be earned. In response, he offers a deeply biblical and sacramental vision of mercy, showing that God has always been merciful, from the Old Testament to the revelation of Divine Mercy and the life of the Church today. Kris and Mike explore how mercy, trust, and hope are inseparably connected and why authentic Christian hope rests not in self-reliance, but in surrender to the love of God.
Their conversation also highlights the healing power of the sacraments, especially Baptism, Reconciliation, and the Eucharist, as privileged encounters with divine mercy. Mike speaks movingly about pride as an obstacle to receiving mercy, the beauty of trusting God’s plan, and the courage to hope even in the face of judgment, suffering, and fear for loved ones. With clarity and warmth, he reminds listeners that hope in God’s mercy is not wishful thinking but a confident trust in the Father’s goodness. This episode is a rich invitation to rediscover the heart of the Gospel and to believe once again that God’s mercy is greater than sin, fear, and every human weakness.
Discerning Hearts Reflections Questions:
You can find the book here
“Mike’s book is not a theological treatise; his writing, like his personality, is real and down-to-earth. To me, the most wonderful and powerful thing Mike has done in this book is to show us the interconnectedness of mercy and hope.”
–Vinny Flynn, author of 7 Secrets of Divine Mercy
“In this book, Mike Pacer offers a loving, heartfelt account of the hope he’s found in Divine Mercy. Through his personal reflections on Scripture, St. Faustina’s writings, and the theological virtues, he offers fresh insights into the hope-filled mystery of God’s merciful love.”
–Fr. Michael E. Gaitley, MIC, author of 33 Days to Morning Glory
Duration:00:36:12
IP#514 Ginny Kochis – Quirky Catholic Kids on Inside the Pages with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/9/2026
Ginny Kochis – Quirky Catholic Kids: Navigating Neurodivergence with Faith and Joy on Inside the Pages with Kris McGregor
In this heartfelt episode of Inside the Pages, Kris McGregor speaks with Ginny Kochis, author of Quirky Catholic Kids: Navigating Neurodivergence with Faith and Joy, about the challenges and graces of raising neurodivergent children in Catholic families. Drawing from her own life as a mother, writer, and advocate, Ginny reflects on autism, ADHD, OCD, anxiety, and the often difficult journey toward understanding a child’s unique needs. Together, Kris and Ginny explore the fear, guilt, isolation, and uncertainty many parents experience, while also offering real hope, practical wisdom, and the reassurance that families are not alone.
Their conversation also highlights the spiritual dimension of parenting quirky Catholic kids, especially the freedom that can come through diagnosis, the importance of community support, and the need for greater compassion in parishes and schools. Kris shares moving insights from her own family’s experience, while Ginny points listeners toward the dignity of every child and the beauty of seeing neurodivergence through the lens of faith. From meltdowns at Mass to the comfort of the saints, including Servant of God Léonie Martin, this episode offers encouragement for parents, grandparents, teachers, priests, and anyone who wants to better accompany families navigating neurodivergence with faith and joy.
About the Author
Ginny Kochis is a Catholic wife, mother, author, and neurodivergent parent coach from Northern Virginia. She writes for and about neurodivergent children, teens, and adults through a Catholic lens, and her author site describes her work as serving “the unique and unrepeatable.” Sophia Institute Press describes Quirky Catholic Kids as a book that shares her experience as a parent and educator, along with faith-filled strategies to help families thrive.
About Her Ministry: Quirky Catholic Kids
Ginny is also the founder of Quirky Catholic Kids, a ministry for Catholic moms raising neurodivergent children. The ministry says it helps mothers move “from overwhelm to confidence” through practical tools, faith, and community, and it offers support through coaching, resources, and encouragement for families raising children who do not fit neatly into conventional expectations
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Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions:
From the book’s description:
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Quirky kids are more: more intense, more active, more emotive, and more sensitive — as much a parent’s or educator’s greatest challenge as they are their greatest joy. In Quirky Catholic Kids, Ginny Kochis explores the complex journey of parenting and educating “outside-the-box,” neurodivergent children — that is, those whose brains receive, process, and express information in unconventional ways — sharing her authentic, often vulnerable, experience as a parent and educator alongside faith-filled strategies designed to help families thrive.
Drawing from scientific research, psychology, and her own personal faith journey, Kochis shows you how to turn hurdles into stepping stones of hope. You’ll learn effective approaches for processing the challenges, fears, and frustrations common in neurodivergent family life, affording you and your children powerful techniques for gaining trust and perseverance in the valleys. You’ll also discover:
Methods for channeling child behaviors, such as hyperfocusing, to make them fruitfulStep-by-step advice on how to respond to meltdowns and help children regulate their emotionsHow to develop social skills through games, role-playing, and storiesTips on fostering executive functioning skills and navigating difficulties with eating and sleepingFive ways to evaluate whether inappropriate behavior is a matter of discipline or developmentWays...
Duration:00:46:48
HR 7 – Living in Community – The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/8/2026
Living in Community – the benefits for all of society
– The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B
In this episode of The Holy Rule of St. Benedict: A Spiritual Path for Today’s World, Kris McGregor and Fr. Mauritius Wilde, OSB, reflect on the essential role of community life in the Benedictine tradition. Drawing from Chapter 1 of the Rule, St. Benedict distinguishes between different types of monastic life, highlighting the cenobites, those who live together under a rule and an abbot, as the “strong kind.” Community life is not the goal in itself, but a powerful means for growth in holiness. Through shared prayer, work, and daily life, individuals are formed, supported, and challenged in ways that cannot be experienced alone.
Fr. Mauritius describes the monastery as both a home and a “support group,” where individuals help one another grow in virtue, face personal weaknesses, and encounter God more deeply. While community life brings joy, identity, and security, it also requires humility, forgiveness, and perseverance. The presence of others reveals both strengths and wounds, offering opportunities for healing and transformation. Rooted in prayer, mutual responsibility, and love, the Benedictine community becomes a living witness to the Gospel, showing that true growth in the spiritual life happens not in isolation, but together.
From the Holy Rule of St. Benedict Chapter 1:
CHAPTER I
Of the Kinds or the Life of Monks
It is well known that there are four kinds of monks. The first kind is that of Cenobites, that is, the monastic, who live under a rule and an Abbot.
The second kind is that of Anchorites, or Hermits, that is, of those who, no longer in the first fervor of their conversion, but taught by long monastic practice and the help of many brethren, have already learned to fight against the devil; and going forth from the rank of their brethren well trained for single combat in the desert, they are able, with the help of God, to cope single-handed without the help of others, against the vices of the flesh and evil thoughts.
But a third and most vile class of monks is that of Sarabaites, who have been tried by no rule under the hand of a master, as gold is tried in the fire (cf Prov 27:21); but, soft as lead, and still keeping faith with the world by their works, they are known to belie God by their tonsure. Living in two’s and three’s, or even singly, without a shepherd, enclosed, not in the Lord’s sheepfold, but in their own, the gratification of their desires is law unto them; because what they choose to do they call holy, but what they dislike they hold to be unlawful.
But the fourth class of monks is that called Landlopers, who keep going their whole life long from one province to another, staying three or four days at a time in different cells as guests. Always roving and never settled, they indulge their passions and the cravings of their appetite, and are in every way worse than the Sarabaites. It is better to pass all these over in silence than to speak of their most wretched life.
Therefore, passing these over, let us go on with the help of God to lay down a rule for that most valiant kind of monks, the Cenobites.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
For more episodes from this series and other podcasts, visit:
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Father Mauritius Wilde, OSB, Ph.D., did his philosophical, theological, and doctoral studies in Europe. He is the author of several books and regularly directs retreats. He serves as Prior at Sant’Anselmo in Rome.
Duration:00:43:23
GWWL8 – William Shakespeare – Hamlet and Macbeth – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/8/2026
William Shakespeare – Hamlet and Macbeth – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce
In this episode of The Great Works in Western Literature, Kris McGregor and Joseph Pearce explore two of William Shakespeare’s greatest tragedies, Hamlet and Macbeth. Widely regarded as one of the greatest writers in Western civilization, Shakespeare presents in these plays a profound exploration of the human soul, moral choice, and the consequences of sin. Pearce explains that while both works are often interpreted through a modern lens of despair or nihilism, they are, in fact, deeply rooted in a Christian understanding of reality. Hamlet traces a journey from confusion and despair toward truth, humility, and ultimately hope, while Macbeth reveals the destructive descent into ambition, pride, and spiritual darkness.
The discussion highlights how these two plays serve as mirrors of the human condition, presenting two possible paths: one leading toward grace and redemption, and another toward isolation and despair. Shakespeare’s characters are richly human, reflecting the inner struggles between virtue and vice that shape every life. Pearce emphasizes the importance of reading these plays carefully, especially within the context of faithful interpretation, to uncover their true meaning. Far from being relics of the past, Hamlet and Macbeth remain timeless works that challenge readers to discern truth, resist temptation, and seek a deeper understanding of the moral life
You can purchase a copy of the book here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
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You can learn more about Joseph’s books, teaching, and writing by visiting his website Joseph Pearce: Celebrating the True, the Good and the Beautiful at jpearce.co
A native of England, Joseph Pearce is the internationally acclaimed author of many books, which include bestsellers such as The Quest for Shakespeare, Tolkien: Man and Myth, The Unmasking of Oscar Wilde, C. S. Lewis and The Catholic Church, Literary Converts, Wisdom and Innocence: A Life of G.K. Chesterton, Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile and Old Thunder: A Life of Hilaire Belloc. His books have been published and translated into Spanish, Portuguese, French, Dutch, Italian, Korean, Mandarin, Croatian, and Polish.
He has hosted two 13-part television series about Shakespeare on EWTN, and has also written and presented documentaries on EWTN on the Catholicism of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. His verse drama, Death Comes for the War Poets, was performed off-Broadway to critical acclaim. He has participated and lectured at a wide variety of international and literary events at major colleges and universities in the U.S., Canada, Britain, Europe, Africa, and South America.
He is a Visiting Professor of Literature at Ave Maria University and a Visiting Chair of Catholic Studies at Thomas More College of Liberal Arts (Merrimack, New Hampshire). He is editor of the St. Austin Review, series editor of the Ignatius Critical Editions, senior instructor with Homeschool Connections, and senior contributor at the Imaginative Conservative and Crisis Magazine. His personal website is www.jpearce.co.
Duration:00:29:11
SJ2 – Joseph and His King – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/7/2026
Joseph and His King – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina
Mike Aquilina and Kris McGregor explore the historical and cultural setting surrounding the birth and early life of St. Joseph, placing him within a small, quiet Nazareth shaped by hope and rooted in the promises to Israel. Though seemingly insignificant, this setting was alive with religious diversity, as groups like the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes offered different approaches to living out the law. Political and religious life were deeply intertwined, often creating tension and instability, especially as rulers manipulated these dynamics for power. This environment formed the backdrop of Joseph’s upbringing—a world both ordinary and quietly charged with expectation of God’s action.
Mike Aquilina also examines the rule of Herod the Great, a brilliant yet deeply troubled leader whose reign combined architectural grandeur with brutality and fear. His attempts to secure power, including violent purges and even claims to messianic status, created an atmosphere of anxiety, particularly among descendants of David, from whom the true Messiah was expected. Against this turbulent background, Joseph’s formation stands out: raised in a devout, working family, trained in both faith and trade, and shaped by traditions tied to King David. His life, though hidden, unfolds within a larger drama where divine purpose quietly advances despite political corruption and human ambition.
You can find the book on which this series is based here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
About the Book
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About the Author
Mike Aquilina is a popular author working in the area of Church history, especially patristics, the study of the early Church Fathers.[1] He is the executive vice-president and trustee of the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, a Roman Catholic research center based in Steubenville, Ohio. He is a contributing editor of Angelus (magazine) and general editor of the Reclaiming Catholic History Series from Ave Maria Press. He is the author or editor of more than fifty books, including The Fathers of the Church (2006); The Mass of the Early Christians (2007); Living the Mysteries (2003); and What Catholics Believe(1999). He has hosted eleven television series on the Eternal Word Television Network and is a frequent guest commentator on Catholic radio.
For more episodes in this series visit – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina page.
Duration:00:27:48
SISL12 – I Have No Fervor & I Feel Sad – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/6/2026
I Have No Fervor & I Feel Sad – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher O.M.V.
Fr. Timothy Gallagher discusses St. Ignatius of Loyola’s insights on handling spiritual desolation with St. Ignatius’ rule to remain steadfast in spiritual practices during desolation and not make changes, using Beth’s experience to illustrate this. Despite feeling no fervor during a Bible study, Beth remains committed, a choice Ignatius encourages as a response to desolation. Recognizing these feelings as a natural part of spiritual growth can prevent discouragement.
Fr. Gallagher also touches on different desolation experiences. Returning to the character of Paul, Paul’s prayer life is subtly disrupted by doubts and comparisons, which cause sadness and diminish his peace, although he can still identify and manage these negative thoughts. Through Paul’s story, St. Ignatius’ counsel is used to recognize and reject discouraging thoughts that intrude during prayer, likening these to “cold air” moments that disturb a peaceful, loving space with God.
The use of Ignatian practices like the examen prayer to gain clarity in these struggles and the importance of knowing personal vulnerabilities in spiritual life. These insights from Ignatius aim to strengthen resilience, helping individuals to hold onto hope and joy in prayer despite ongoing spiritual challenges.
You can pick up a copy of the book here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
An excerpt from the chapter, “I Have No Fervor”:
“How should we understand Beth’s experience this Wednesday evening? We have no indication that Beth is at fault. She is faithful. She prepares and attends the class in her usual way. She does her best to participate — so well in fact, that none perceive her lack of enthusiasm. What, then, is Beth experiencing?
Having followed Ignatius thus far, we can guess the answer! This Wednesday evening, Beth experiences a form of spiritual desolation. She feels, to use Ignatius’s words, “totally tepid,” that is, completely without fervor as she performs a spiritual practice. In this form of desolation, we feel spiritually lukewarm, indifferent, unenthusiastic, without affect. When we pray, serve the Lord, live our vocations, take new steps in our spiritual lives, seek holiness, but find ourselves tepid and without fervor as we do these things, we are experiencing spiritual desolation. The adverb “totally” is again expressive.
Have you ever felt this form of spiritual desolation? Yes, certainly, we all have at times. Obviously, the enemy’s goal is that such tepidity cause us to question ourselves, to lose heart, to abandon these helpful practices. Beth responds well when she remains faithful, the right response for us as well.
Once again, no shame! No surprise! Be aware, identify, reject.”
Gallagher O.M.V, Fr. Timothy ; Gallagher O.M.V, Fr. Timothy. Struggles in the Spiritual Life: Their Nature and Their Remedies (pp. 76-77). Sophia Institute Press. Kindle Edition.
An excerpt from the chapter, “I Feel Sad”:
“Before Paul — or we — can answer these questions, we need to identify the sadness he feels. Paul is faithful to prayer and has been for years. He loves it, and he feels its fruits. Though the sadness weighs on him, Paul does not let it stop him. In fact, he is progressing in prayer, as his increased awareness of his experience reveals. Paul now notes spiritual movements, even this undramatic, nonclamorous sense of sadness. He can identify the thoughts from which it originates. Paul’s sadness, then, does not derive from negligence on his part.
How, then, should we understand it? Paul experiences a form of spiritual desolation that Ignatius describes as finding oneself “totally sad.” Paul is not yet “totally” sad, but things appear to be moving in that direction.
Once again, no shame, so surprise; be aware, identify, reject. This sadness is distinct from the healthy — even if painful — sadness we feel at the loss of a loved one, the...
Duration:00:29:57
BW45 – Fidelity in the Ordinary – The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/3/2026
The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life: Learning to Listen to God with a Discerning Heart with Kris McGregor
Episode 45 – St. Frances of Rome- Fidelity in the Ordinary
In this episode of The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life, Kris McGregor turns to St. Frances of Rome, a wife, mother, widow and Benedictine oblate whose holiness was formed not in withdrawal from responsibility, but in the middle of it. Frances lived amid family duties, illness, grief, service to the poor and the demands of household life. Yet prayer was not lost there. It was carried within those realities and gradually deepened through them.
Frances shows that ordinary duties are not outside the spiritual life. They can become the very place where love of God is tested and purified. Her famous insight, that a married woman may leave God at the altar to find Him in her domestic cares, does not diminish prayer. It reveals its fruit. What begins at the altar is meant to continue in charity, patience and fidelity toward the people already entrusted to us.
This witness fits naturally within the Benedictine way. The Holy Rule forms the heart through prayer, psalmody and the liturgical rhythm of the Church, so that even when life becomes interrupted, demanding or heavy, the soul can remain steadier within. Frances reminds us that holiness is not found only in set-apart moments. It is also found where duty and charity meet. This episode invites listeners to see that real life is not an obstacle to sanctity. It is often the very place where Christ waits to be loved faithfully.
Citations
St. Frances of Rome
“A married woman must leave God at the altar to find Him in her domestic cares.”
Matthew 25:37-40, RSV–Catholic Edition
Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’
And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
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Duration:00:08:54
The Mystery of Good Friday with Deacon James Keating Ph.D. and Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/3/2026
The Mystery of Good Friday – A Special Conversation with Deacon James Keating, Ph.D., and Kris McGregor
During this podcast, Deacon Keating will offer his insights on the mystery of this Good Friday.
Amidst the turmoil of the COVID-19 lockdowns in 2020, this recording captured Deacon Keating’s profound insights.
Remarkably, his words continue to resonate with timeless relevance, offering poignant guidance and wisdom that remains as crucial today as it was during those uncertain times.
Here are a few of his comments:
Deacon James Keating:
“John is the one who gives us that famous line. It is finished. It is finished. What is finished? This creation, creation is finished. Everything after the crucifixion, the resurrection, everything after that is creation, a sort of groaning as Paul says, to catch up to what Jesus has already done, that perfect man, that perfection of God. And again, perfection is not as we understand it perhaps mathematically with no errors or faults, but scripturally, perfection is what Jesus said it was, be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. And then he contextualized that within the sense of welcoming your enemies, welcoming the other, welcoming those who are not you. And of course, that’s what Jesus was literally doing on the cross. He was welcoming those who were the enemy, who were not him, in other words, were against him, and this is what perfection is for the Christian.
On the cross, Jesus was the perfect man because he was the man who was forgiven, welcoming of the enemy, welcoming of the one who was literally killing him, and still not calling down his angels to destroy them, but actually welcoming the one who is killing into his own heart. As scripture says, “God has the sun shine on the good and the evil”, and that’s what Jesus was doing from the cross. He was saying, “You’re still welcome in me even as you’re killing me because I am love itself.”
And so as we meditate on Good Friday and on the crucifixion, we’re also meditating on our own dignity as Christians. We have, again, through the Holy Spirit, we have that spirit of perfection in us, the spirit of forgiveness, the spirit of welcoming those who are not ourselves. In other words, to no longer live as extensions of our egos, but to literally be hospitable to the other, even the other who would hurt us through the process of forgiveness.
Obviously, great mysteries here that the Holy Spirit must tutor us in real life. We can always think about them and write about them and speak about them, but when it comes to living them, we really need the incredible combustible power of the Holy Spirit moving our will to actually welcome the enemy and forgive those who are hurting us. But it’s all there on the Cross. The perfect man, the forgiven man, the man who is in perfect harmony with God, all of those things Jesus is trying to gift us with as well.”
Deacon James Keating, Ph.D., is a professor of Spiritual Theology and serves as a spiritual director at Kenrick Glennon Seminary in St. Louis, MO.
Check out Deacon Keating’s “Discerning Heart” page
Duration:00:34:10
BW44 – Guarding What Is Hidden – The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/2/2026
The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life: Learning to Listen to God with a Discerning Heart with Kris McGregor
Episode 44 – St. Gregory the Great – The Pastoral Rule: Guarding What Is Hidden
In this episode of The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life, Kris McGregor continues with St. Gregory the Great and reflects on a quieter danger in the spiritual life: not open failure, but the slow erosion that can come through long responsibility, weariness, and the desire to be seen as good, dependable, or necessary. Gregory knows that what is at risk is not only the work itself, but the soul doing it. A person may continue serving faithfully on the outside while the hidden life with God begins to thin out within.
Gregory’s warning is both sober and merciful. Good work becomes dangerous when the heart begins to feed on visibility, praise, or the comfort of being appreciated. Prayer grows thin, humility weakens, and service quietly shifts away from God. That is why Gregory insists that the interior life must be guarded even more carefully than the works others can see. Hidden fidelity protects the soul from this erosion and keeps the heart turned toward God rather than toward recognition.
This teaching belongs deeply within the Benedictine way. The Holy Rule trains a person not to build life on praise, notice, or self-importance. Stability keeps the heart in place before God. Humility checks the desire to be lifted up. Obedience keeps action ordered toward God’s will rather than self-satisfaction. This episode invites listeners to guard what is hidden, remain faithful where no one sees, and let prayer stay deeper than appearance, so that perseverance can endure in freedom and truth.
Citations
St. Gregory the Great: The Pastoral Rule
“Often the mind is lifted up by the good it does,
and while it seeks the praise of men,
it loses the reward of God.
Therefore the shepherd must guard the interior life
more carefully than the works that are seen.”
Matthew 6:6, RSV–Catholic Edition
“When you pray, go into your room and shut the door
and pray to your Father who is in secret;
and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.”
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
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Duration:00:08:19
A Special Holy Thursday Reflection – Building a Kingdom of Love with Msgr. John Esseff – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcast
4/2/2026
A Special Holy Thursday Reflection – Building a Kingdom of Love with Msgr. John Esseff
Msgr. John Esseff reflects deeply on the meaning of Holy Thursday, focusing especially on Jesus’ washing of the disciples’ feet and the institution of the Eucharist. He describes the foot-washing as a sign of humility and love that all Christians are called to imitate, not just toward family and friends, but especially toward enemies and those most difficult to serve. This act, performed by Christ before his Passion, is framed as his last will and testament—a mandate to serve others with profound humility, as he did. Msgr. Esseff invites us to internalize this calling by examining their relationships and asking us whose feet we would struggle to wash.
There is the unity between the Eucharist and this act of service. Receiving Christ in the Eucharist, especially during the Triduum, is meant to transform hearts to love as he loves. It’s important to receive spiritual discernment in knowing when and how to engage with others in this sacrificial way. Msgr. Esseff recalls traditional Holy Thursday devotions and reflects on the Paschal Mystery—Christ’s suffering, death, and resurrection—as the heart of Christian life, reminding the listener that Easter marks a beginning, not an end, in the journey of faith.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
Gospel JN 13:1-15
“Before the feast of Passover, Jesus knew that his hour had come
to pass from this world to the Father.
He loved his own in the world and he loved them to the end.
The devil had already induced Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot, to hand him over.
So, during supper,
fully aware that the Father had put everything into his power
and that he had come from God and was returning to God,
he rose from supper and took off his outer garments.
He took a towel and tied it around his waist.
Then he poured water into a basin
and began to wash the disciples’ feet
and dry them with the towel around his waist.
He came to Simon Peter, who said to him,
“Master, are you going to wash my feet?”
Jesus answered and said to him,
“What I am doing, you do not understand now,
but you will understand later.”
Peter said to him, “You will never wash my feet.”
Jesus answered him,
“Unless I wash you, you will have no inheritance with me.”
Simon Peter said to him,
“Master, then not only my feet, but my hands and head as well.”
Jesus said to him,
“Whoever has bathed has no need except to have his feet washed,
for he is clean all over;
so you are clean, but not all.”
For he knew who would betray him;
for this reason, he said, “Not all of you are clean.”So when he had washed their feet
and put his garments back on and reclined at table again,
he said to them, “Do you realize what I have done for you?
You call me ‘teacher’ and ‘master,’ and rightly so, for indeed I am.
If I, therefore, the master and teacher, have washed your feet,
you ought to wash one another’s feet.
I have given you a model to follow,
so that as I have done for you, you should also do.”
Msgr. John A. Esseff is a Roman Catholic priest in the Diocese of Scranton. Msgr. Esseff served a retreat director and confessor to St. Teresa of Calcutta. He continues to offer direction and retreats for the sisters of the missionaries of charity around the world. Msgr. Esseff encountered St. Padre Pio, who would become a spiritual father to him. He has lived in areas around the world, serving in the Pontifical missions, a Catholic organization established by Pope St. John Paul II to bring the Good News to the world especially to the poor. He continues to serve as a retreat leader and director to bishops, priests and sisters and seminarians and other religious leaders around the world.
Duration:00:55:03
HR 6 – In place of provincialism, respect and tolerance – The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B – Discerning Hearts Podcast
4/1/2026
In place of provincialism, respect and tolerance
– The Holy Rule of St. Benedict with Fr. Mauritius Wilde O.S.B
In this episode of The Holy Rule of St. Benedict: A Spiritual Path for Today’s World, Kris McGregor and Fr. Mauritius Wilde, OSB, explore the challenge of overcoming provincialism through the Benedictine virtues of respect and tolerance. Within the stability of monastic life, there exists a real temptation to turn inward and lose sight of the broader human family. St. Benedict addresses this by fostering communities composed of people from different backgrounds, cultures, and experiences, all united in Christ. By doing so, he creates not only a place of prayer but a model of unity rooted in the Gospel, where each person is valued as a child of God.
Fr. Mauritius explains that respect flows from recognizing the presence of God in every person, while tolerance involves the difficult work of bearing with one another’s weaknesses. This does not mean accepting everything without discernment, but rather living together under a shared commitment to Christ and the Rule. In a world increasingly marked by division and cultural tension, Benedictine spirituality offers a powerful witness: unity is possible when hearts remain fixed on Christ. Through discipline, humility, and prayer, communities can become places of authentic peace, where differences reveal not division, but the richness of God’s presence.
From the Holy Rule of St. Benedict Chapter 2:
CHAPTER II
What Kind of Man the Abbot Ought to Be
“…..Let him make no distinction of persons in the monastery. Let him not love one more than another, unless it be one whom he findeth more exemplary in good works and obedience. Let not a free-born be preferred to a freedman, unless there be some other reasonable cause. But if from a just reason the Abbot deemeth it proper to make such a distinction, he may do so in regard to the rank of anyone whomsoever; otherwise let everyone keep his own place; for whether bond or free, we are all one in Christ (cf Gal 3:28; Eph 6:8), and we all bear an equal burden of servitude under one Lord, “for there is no respect of persons with God” (Rom 2:11). We are distinguished with Him in this respect alone, if we are found to excel others in good works and in humility. Therefore, let him have equal charity for all, and impose a uniform discipline for all according to merit.”
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
For more episodes from this series and other podcasts, visit:
Fr. Mauritius Wilde’s Discerning Hearts page
Father Mauritius Wilde, OSB, Ph.D., did his philosophical, theological, and doctoral studies in Europe. He is the author of several books and regularly directs retreats. He serves as Prior at Sant’Anselmo in Rome.
Duration:00:29:21
GWWL7 – Nathaniel Hawthorne – The Scarlet Letter – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/1/2026
Nathaniel Hawthorne and The Scarlet Letter – Great Works in Western Literature with Joseph Pearce
In this episode of The Great Works in Western Literature, Joseph Pearce and Kris McGregor explore Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter, a foundational work of American literature that offers a profound meditation on sin, repentance, and redemption. Set within a Puritan community, the novel examines the consequences of moral failure while also revealing the deeper Christian call to mercy and reconciliation. Pearce highlights how Hawthorne challenges both the self-righteousness of judgmental religion and the despair of hidden sin, presenting instead a vision of hope rooted in humility and transformation.
The discussion highlights the novel’s powerful symbolism, especially in the characters of Hester, Dimmesdale, and Pearl. Hester’s acceptance of her suffering becomes a path toward holiness, while Dimmesdale’s hidden guilt reveals the destructive burden of unconfessed sin. Pearl, as a symbol of innocence and grace, serves as a light of redemption within a broken world. Pearce emphasizes that The Scarlet Letter is not an anti-Christian work, but a deeply Christian one, calling readers to move beyond judgment toward compassion, repentance, and the healing power of truth.
You can purchase a copy of the book here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
The Scarlet Letter
You can learn more about Joseph’s books, teaching, and writing by visiting his website Joseph Pearce: Celebrating the True, the Good and the Beautiful at jpearce.co
A native of England, Joseph Pearce is the internationally acclaimed author of many books, which include bestsellers such as The Quest for Shakespeare, Tolkien: Man and Myth, The Unmasking of Oscar Wilde, C. S. Lewis and The Catholic Church, Literary Converts, Wisdom and Innocence: A Life of G.K. Chesterton, Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile and Old Thunder: A Life of Hilaire Belloc. His books have been published and translated into Spanish, Portuguese, French, Dutch, Italian, Korean, Mandarin, Croatian, and Polish.
He has hosted two 13-part television series about Shakespeare on EWTN, and has also written and presented documentaries on EWTN on the Catholicism of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. His verse drama, Death Comes for the War Poets, was performed off-Broadway to critical acclaim. He has participated and lectured at a wide variety of international and literary events at major colleges and universities in the U.S., Canada, Britain, Europe, Africa, and South America.
He is a Visiting Professor of Literature at Ave Maria University and a Visiting Chair of Catholic Studies at Thomas More College of Liberal Arts (Merrimack, New Hampshire). He is editor of the St. Austin Review, series editor of the Ignatius Critical Editions, senior instructor with Homeschool Connections, and senior contributor at the Imaginative Conservative and Crisis Magazine. His personal website is www.jpearce.co.
Duration:00:28:34
BW43 – Discretion and Self-Knowledge – The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
4/1/2026
The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life: Learning to Listen to God with a Discerning Heart with Kris McGregor
Episode 43 – St. Gregory the Great – The Pastoral Rule: Discretion and Self-Knowledge
In this episode of The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life, Kris McGregor continues with St. Gregory the Great and turns to a danger that often follows responsibility: losing sight of one’s own soul while caring for others. Gregory understands how easily outward activity can create the illusion of fidelity while the interior life grows thin, neglected, or evasive. For that reason, he insists that anyone who guides, corrects, or serves others must remain rooted in self-knowledge.
Gregory’s teaching is not about endless introspection. It is about truthfulness. The person entrusted with others must remain teachable, repentant, and aware of his own need for mercy. Discretion grows from that humility. It helps a person judge rightly, not only others but himself. It keeps authority from becoming harsh or blind and keeps correction from turning hypocritical. The one who remembers his own wounds is more likely to lead with patience and tenderness.
This wisdom belongs naturally within the Benedictine way. The Holy Rule does not let a person hide behind duty, role or appearance for long. Humility brings the heart into truth. Stability keeps it from fleeing that truth. Obedience softens defensiveness and teaches the soul to listen even when the truth is uncomfortable. This episode invites listeners to see that self-knowledge does not weaken service. It purifies it. The heart that stays honest before God becomes safer for others.
Citations
St. Gregory the Great: The Pastoral Rule
“The ruler must examine himself carefully, lest while correcting others he neglects his own wounds.”
Luke 6:41, RSV–Catholic Edition
“Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?”
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
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Duration:00:07:12
BW42 – Compassion Rooted in Prayer – The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life with Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
3/31/2026
The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life: Learning to Listen to God with a Discerning Heart with Kris McGregor
Episode 42 – St. Gregory the Great – The Pastoral Rule: Compassion Rooted in Prayer
In this episode of The Rule of St. Benedict for Daily Life, Kris McGregor turns to St. Gregory the Great, monk, pope, and Doctor of the Church, whose Pastoral Rule speaks with unusual depth about the relationship between contemplation and responsibility. Gregory knew both the silence of monastic life and the heavy demands of pastoral office. Because of that, he writes with realism. He understands how easily caring for others can draw the heart outward, leaving the interior life thin, restless, or neglected.
Gregory does not oppose compassion and contemplation. He insists they belong together. The shepherd must be close to others through sympathy, yet remain anchored in God through prayer. Without that rootedness, even sincere service can become anxious, reactive or subtly self-serving. Prayer does not remove a person from responsibility. It purifies responsibility and keeps it faithful.
This teaching fits deeply within the Benedictine way. The Holy Rule does not force a choice between prayer and duty. It teaches the soul to remain rooted in God while carrying what has been entrusted to it. Stability guards against interior scattering. Obedience keeps responsibility under God rather than under ego or fear. Humility protects authority from distortion. This episode invites listeners to see that the safest place for responsibility is in the hands of a person who still knows how to pray.
Citations
St. Gregory the Great: The Pastoral Rule
“The shepherd should be close to everyone through compassion
and yet remain above all through contemplation,
so that he may pour himself out in sympathy
and still cling to the heights of prayer.”
Mark 6:31, RSV–Catholic Edition
“Come away by yourselves to a lonely place, and rest a while.”
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
For other episodes in this series, visit
The Rule Of St. Benedict For Daily Life: Learning To Listen To God With A Discerning Heart
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Copyright © 2026 Kris McGregor. All rights reserved. No portion of this content may be reproduced, distributed, published, or transmitted in any form, including audio, print, or digital media, without prior written permission from Discerning Hearts®.
Duration:00:08:33
SJ1 – St. Joseph’s World – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina – Discerning Hearts Podcast
3/31/2026
St. Joseph’s World – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina
Kris McGregor and Mike Aquilina explore St. Joseph by placing him within the sweeping history of Israel, especially the lineage of Abraham and King David as presented in the Gospel of Matthew. This genealogy is not incidental but central, revealing a family story rooted in concrete historical events, carefully preserved over centuries. The people of Israel maintained detailed ancestral records because they trusted that God’s promises—though sometimes appearing delayed—would be fulfilled. This long view of history reveals a pattern: divine promises unfolding across generations, culminating in the arrival of the Messiah through David’s line, with Joseph playing a unique role within God’s family as a reflection of fatherhood.
Mike also reflects on the flawed yet significant figures of David and Solomon, whose sins contributed to the collapse and exile of the kingdom, demonstrating both human weakness and the need for repentance. Despite apparent defeat—exile, loss of kingship, and the seeming end of David’s line—God’s plan continued quietly through preserved genealogies and faithful communities living in dispersion. Over time, movements like the Maccabean revolt and the return to the land reignited hope, leading descendants of David back to places like Nazareth, where Joseph would be born. This historical journey reveals how divine purposes unfold through both triumph and failure, preparing the way for fulfillment in unexpected ways.
You can find the book on which this series is based here.
Discerning Hearts Reflection Questions
About the Book
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About the Author
Mike Aquilina is a popular author working in the area of Church history, especially patristics, the study of the early Church Fathers.[1] He is the executive vice-president and trustee of the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, a Roman Catholic research center based in Steubenville, Ohio. He is a contributing editor of Angelus (magazine) and general editor of the Reclaiming Catholic History Series from Ave Maria Press. He is the author or editor of more than fifty books, including The Fathers of the Church (2006); The Mass of the Early Christians (2007); Living the Mysteries (2003); and What Catholics Believe(1999). He has hosted eleven television series on the Eternal Word Television Network and is a frequent guest commentator on Catholic radio.
For more episodes in this series visit – St. Joseph and His World with Mike Aquilina page.
Duration:00:27:26