The Real Estate Espresso Podcast

The headlines on the Wall Street Journal have been marvelling at the lack of inflationary pressure as a result of tariffs. The latest CPI announcement had the annualized rate at 2.7% against the backdrop of a weakening labor market. This is converging on the Fed’s 2% target for inflation. We are looking at inflation because the Fed’s interest rate policy is linked to balancing both price stability and maximizing employment. If inflation is too high, they raise rates in order to suppress demand. If unemployment is too high they lower rates to stimulate investment. Of course we know it is not just the rates which affect the economy, it’s access to credit which is infinitely more important. We know that tariffs have been making headlines for most of this year. Tariffs have been in effect on a wide range of goods for many countries since April 1. There have been several delays to the implementation of tariffs which were designed to incentivize new trade deals with the US. Some of these have concluded and others like Canada and China are still in process. Last Friday the Producer Price Index was published and it showed that prices increase 0.9% for the month of July. That's a huge jump in a month. Is this all the result of tariffs? No. The services component of the PPI rose 1.1% and the goods component rose 0.7%. Tariffs are not the whole story. When I consider that companies need to maintain profitability, there are several ways they can do this. For example, retailers might hold the line on prices for goods that have tariffs attached to them. But I think the cost pressure from tariffs and the incentive to bring manufacturing to the US will have two effects. The drive to save costs will accelerate the adoption of AI in companies and speed up the elimination of jobs. Strangely, this will have the opposite effect that the White House is hoping for. So if inflation ticks up as a result of tariffs, can the Fed do anything about it? The answer is a resounding NO. Raising interest rates won’t make the tariffs go away. Increasing costs for businesses won’t cause demand to fall enough to suppress prices. So the Fed would be rendered completely impotent to bring price stability from an artificial imposition of tariffs causing prices to increase. You see these economic models assume normal economic behaviour. But if the model doesn’t explain the real situation on the ground, then at a certain point you have to abandon the computer simulation and look out the window to see what’s happening. -------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

Ryan Hawkins is based in St. Louis where he consults as a campaign manager for developers all across North America on the politics of land use. On today's show we are talking about the types of opposition that materialize and how to respond to them. To connect with Ryan and to learn more, visit https://www.sabrepointpa.com/ -------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

Luis Belmonte is based in San Francisco. He's been active in real estate development since the 1960's and has lived through 7 economic cycles in his career. On today's show we are talking about how to spot and survive these cycles. To connect with Luis, visit 7hp.com. He has several books on Amazon including Real Estate 101Streetdog MBAStreetdog ManagerStreetdog Negotiator--------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today's show we are doing a walk-through of a new project that is hosting an open house tomorrow. This is a 253 unit housing project at Mont Tremblant in Quebec, an hour North of Montreal. Mont Tremblant, like many resort communities suffers from a shortage of housing for the employees of the resort. On today's show I'm sharing some of the attention to detail that is necessary to deliver a world class product. ------------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are talking about government involvement in the economy. Countries vary widely in terms of the extent to which government plays a role in the total economy. At the extreme end of the spectrum there are the purely authoritarian states based on communism. Places like Cuba and the old Soviet Union where government was the economy. But there are government initiatives within the US which frankly are worse. --------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are taking a look at a relatively new product category. This is something that Y Street Capital has been active in for some time. But the industry and the investment community are waking up and taking notice. A recent white paper from the folks at Green Street is entitled : "Industrial Outdoor Storage: A Beautiful Ugly Duckling." Research and data on the sector remain scarce, which frankly can create opportunities. That’s the opinion at Green Street, and it’s our opinion as well. ------------ **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are looking at the integrity of economic data. This has been making headlines with the President firing the head of the bureau of labor and statistics and installing a longtime critic of the BLS to head the agency. The BLS has received a lot of questions and criticism for their data collection methods. The world seems up in arms that the President is going to interfere with how economic data is collected and reported. On today’s show we are going to take a walk through history to look at how economic data and employment data is collected and reported and the numerous changes that have taken place under various administrations since the 1940’s. The BLS and the BEA claim to have no political affiliation and therefore they are independent from the administration. Let’s look and see at what history tells us, and maybe you will agree with that sentiment, and maybe you won’t. The collection and dissemination of these statistics are primarily the responsibility of two independent federal agencies: the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA). The BLS, which was first established in 1884, is responsible for producing data on employment, prices, and productivity, while the BEA's mission is to provide a comprehensive picture of the U.S. economy through its national accounts, including Gross Domestic Product (GDP). ------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

Capital tends to flow where it is treated the best. Well the state of Texas is considering a change to its constitution which will have no immediate impact on taxes. Currently the state of Texas has no state income tax for individuals or businesses. It also has no capital gains tax. Texas is currently in the process of considering a constitutional amendment that would permanently prohibit a state-level capital gains tax. This is a significant development, especially since Texas already has no state income or capital gains tax. The proposed change isn't to add a tax, but to legally block one from ever being enacted in the future. Texas voters will decide on Proposition 2, a legislatively referred constitutional amendment, on November 4, 2025. Of course any income earned in the state of Texas including capital gains is still subject to Federal income tax and capital gains tax. So why is this significant? When a jurisdiction is seen as business friendly, it tends to attract investment. It attracts more than its fair share of jobs and prosperity. This is sending a message to the business community that Texas is open for business and is open for investment and residency. This might be considered a PR stunt since in the short term it really changes nothing. But investment in a location starts with making a favourable first impression. It’s one step along the path of many steps that are ultimately required to get a company to locate there. --------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

Joel Landon is based in Salt Lake City where he helps investors administer their retirement savings. On today's show we are talking about how to use a Roth Conversion as a tax efficient method for investing in real estate. This is not a rookie move, and of course we are not providing tax advice on this show. Consult your own tax specialists who are familiar with your specific circumstance. To connect with Joel, visit https://heritageira.com/joel-landon/ or email him directly at joel@heritageira.com. ------------ **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

Mike Kron is based in Newport Beach California. His strategy has pivoted lately to focusing on retail credit tenant net leases. These are the national brand operators that provide corporate guarantees on the retail lease for businesses that are not vulnerable to e-commerce and shrinking retail footprints. To connect with Mike visit https://guardiannetlease.com/ or email him directly at mike@guardian-advisory.com. ------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are looking at an echo from the Great Financial Crisis. There was collapse of a banking house of cards triggered a drop in lending liquidity which then precipitated a fall in real estate prices. There were several areas across the US that got caught up in that mess in a big way. On today’s show we are looking at which areas of the country are currently experiencing negative equity and comparing them to counties that were similarly affected in the period from 2008-2012. In that time, the recovery only started in 2013. It took a full 8 years for prices to re-normalize in many of those areas. Right now, there are a few areas in California, Florida, New York, Illinois, and Texas that are experiencing negative equity. Washington DC is also on the list, but in my opinion for different reasons. Now I’m not here to tell you that we are experiencing a repeat of 2008. But I find it interesting that some of the same markets that experienced the most negative equity in 2008 are also the same ones experiencing negative equity today in 2025. This is a time when you need to be particularly careful. There are people still quoting growth statistics for these areas that frankly in my estimation are no longer valid. Yes, there are national home builders planning large scale gated communities with thousands of homes in the future. But I can also tell you that these builders will not be building at the same pace in an environment where inventories are surging and equity is evaporating. ---------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

As many of you know, I follow macro economics and from time to time I share perspectives on the implications of underlying aspects of industries that ultimately affect real estate or the economy in some way. On today’s show we are talking about oil. It’s been a while since we have looked at what’s happening in oil and gas. To start with we have not seen any appreciable change in oil prices over the past two years. They’ve traded within a fairly narrow range between $70-$90 per barrel. There have been a few excursions outside that range. These days, prices are hovering between $60-$70 per barrel for most of this year. This is an indication of fairly balanced supply and demand. The latest 50% tariff levelled against India as punishment for buying Russian oil is totally missing the point. This has become a massive game of musical chairs. At the end of the day, supply and demand will always seek to find an equilibrium, just like gravity helps water find its equilibrium. ------------ **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are talking about the impact of data centres on nearby residents. You would think that a data centre is a large rectangular building filled with electronics and the high speed optical connections coming in and out of the data centre will connect the servers with the end users. Beyond the fact that the data centre is probably not the most beautiful building in the world, there should be no real lasting impact from the data centre on the community. Well, as it turns out, that’s not the case. In fact, data centres can create a huge amount of noise and they use a massive amount of water. -------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are looking at three clear signals that financial markets are sending us over the past three days. There are three moves in the market that are noteworthy. We are going to unpack all three ------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are looking at banking and how banks make decisions. Access to capital is one of the key pillars in real estate. Now let me be clear. I am not a banker. I’m not a mortgage broker in any jurisdiction and I’m not her to provide advice of any kind. I’m merely sharing what have been my own observations, which may be incomplete or downright incorrect. Let’s look at how banks make money so that we can better understand how and why they might say yes to a loan request and when they are likely to say no. -------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

George Ross is a repeat guest on the podcast. On today's show we're talking about how to negotiate when there is a power imbalance between the parties. --------------

Jacob Sybrowsky is based in Provo Utah where he specializes in working with high net worth families on their investment mandates. On today's show we are talking about what ultra high net worth families are looking for when it comes to getting deals done. To connect with Jacob, visit diversify.com or email his directly at jsybrowsky@diversify.com. ------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

If you have been following me for a while you will know that I come from an engineering and product design background. I view the world through the lens of product design where you are designing a specific product for a specific customer. If you buy a rental apartment building and decide you are going to lease it out to tenants, this is still a product designed with a specific customer in mind. It is human centred design. Our book this month is all about human centred design. "The Design of Everyday Things” by Don Norman. The Design of Everyday Things, is not merely a book about industrial design; it is a profound philosophical treatise on the relationship between humans and the objects that populate their world. First published in 1988 and revised in 2013, the book's core message remains as relevant and powerful today as it was over three decades ago. Norman argues that the fault for our daily struggles with technology—from fumbling with confusing remote controls to battling poorly designed doors—lies not with the user, but with the designer. This simple yet revolutionary premise forms the backbone of a text that has become essential reading for anyone involved in product design. ------------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are talking about the softening of the residential housing market that is underway across both the US and Canada. The seasonally adjusted numbers are in for the month of June which now shows four months of steady decline compared with the previous months. Again, we need to remember that these are seasonally adjusted numbers. The June numbers are still about 2% higher than the same period in 2024. This is true for the top 20 primary markets across the US as well as the national averages. The numbers are pretty consistent for both the Case Schiller report as well as the National Association of Realtors. The national home builders are also experiencing falling demand. New single family home sales have fallen by 6.6% in the first six months of 2025. Home builders have tried to adapt to the falling demand by building smaller and more affordable homes. But sales have fallen even with these adaptations to market demand. ---------- **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)

On today’s show we are unpacking the shocking GDP announcement that was published at 8:30 on Wednesday morning July 30. The market expected a 2.3% growth rate and the actual published number blew past the expectation with a 3% annualized growth rate in the second quarter. This is in stark contrast to the negative 0.5% growth rate in the first quarter. So the obvious question is how did the economy swing from economic contraction in the first quarter to 3% growth in the second quarter? On today’s show we are going to look at the underlying components of the GDP calculation to get an understand what is happening. There are only a handful of variables, five of them in fact that move the needle. There is consumption, investment, inventory, imports and exports. Let’s look at each one of these factors and determine the impact of each one on the GDP calculation. ------------ **Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1) iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613) Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com) LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce) YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso) Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com) **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com) Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital) Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)