That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find...

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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English

Episodes

Redemption in Her Corner

4/21/2026

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13) and discuss the case involving Jamill Jones fatally one-punching Sandor Szabo. SOURCES: The New York State Senate 1 The New York State Senate 2 True Crime News PIX11 News ESPN People The News & Observer Los Angeles Times The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: YWCA USA Next week’s episode will be “Recall" (Season 8, Episode 3). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:17:03

Deadly Ambition w/ Carolyn McCormick

4/14/2026

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15) and the confounding Tracy Roberson case. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the iconic Carolyn McCormick. SOURCES: NBC News ABC News ABC7 Amarillo Court Of Appeals Second District Of Texas Fort Worth Fort Worth Star-Telegram WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Mental Health Coalition Next week’s episode will be “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 14, Episode 15). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:14:26

Father Dearest w/ Eric Close

4/7/2026

This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20) and discuss the real-life story of prolific sperm donor Ben Seisler. Plus, they interview the delightful Eric Close. SOURCES: Daily Mail Salon Wikipedia - Genetic sexual attraction Wikipedia - Westermarck effect ABC7 Time Center for Genetics and Society WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Families Rising Next week’s episode will be “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:02:57

Great Expectations w/ Lincoln Melcher

3/31/2026

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the hockey-related episode “Great Expectations” (Season 18, Episode 11) and investigate the case of Thomas Junta murdering another hockey Dad at a children’s pickup game. Plus, they chat with the wonderful Lincoln Melcher. SOURCES: The New York Times CNN NBC Sports Telegram & Gazette CBS News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Hockey Diversity Alliance Next week’s episode will be “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:49:27

Reasonable Doubt w/ Bradley Whitford

3/24/2026

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22) and discuss the predatory history of the infamous film director Woody Allen. Plus, they have a wonderful conversation with the magnificent Bradley Whitford. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Woody Allen sexual abuse allegation Vanity Fair 1 Vanity Fair 2 Vanity Fair 3 The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 mosesfarrow.blogspot.com Vulture Los Angeles Times Wikipedia - Roman Polanski WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: My Father, Woody Allen, and the Danger of Questions Unasked Next week’s episode will be “Great Expectations" (Season 18, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:26:35

Hothouse w/ Aya Cash

3/17/2026

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12) and the disturbing real-life murder of teenager Kirsten Costas. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the wonderful Aya Cash (The Boys, You're the Worst). SOURCES: Los Angeles Times The New York Times Time United Press International WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: SAMHSA’s National Helpline Next week’s episode will be “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:11:58

Sophomore Jinx w/ Lothaire Bluteau

3/10/2026

This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery Wikipedia - Katie Koestner Time 1 Time 2 katiekoestner.com The Flat Hat BBC The Daily Item WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Take Back the Night Next week’s episode will be “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:58:20

Cold w/ Judith McCreary

3/3/2026

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary. SOURCES: ABC 13 The New York Times Tampa Bay Times Vidocq Society Police1 CBS News MinnPost KIRO 7 Medium WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Vidocq Society Next week’s episode will be “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:24:21

Pursuit

2/24/2026

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer." SOURCES: Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway ABC News The Washington Post all that’s interesting The New York Times People WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Predators (2025) Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:53:13

Let Me Bring Pardon

2/17/2026

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility. SOURCES: Vice NBC News ABC World News The Arizona Republic The Independent Slate Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:10:57

Responsible w/ Leven Rambin

2/10/2026

This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin. SOURCES: ABC News CNN The Guardian The Today Show NBC News Bradenton Herald People 1 People 2 Tampa Bay Times WLTX19 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: FindTreatment.gov Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:09:12

Dance, Lies and Videotape

2/3/2026

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dance, Lies and Videotape” (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images. SOURCES: BBC ABC7NY New York Post 1 New York Post 2 The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Stand With Minnesota Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:59:54

Spooked w/ Vincent Spano

1/27/2026

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the episode, “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6), discuss the tragic Rachel Hoffman case, and interview the fantastic Vincent Spano. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Murder of Rachel Hoffman The New Yorker ABC News Tallahassee Democrat Wikipedia - Operation Mongoose Wikipedia - Operation Northwoods Wikipedia - Los Zetas WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Throwaways by Sarah Stillman Next week’s episode will be “Dance, Lies and Videotape" (Season 21, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:22:57

Ripped

1/20/2026

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Ripped” (Season 12, Episode 11). Plus, they discuss the tragic, steroids-related suicide of teenager Taylor Hooton. SOURCES: The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Performance-enhancing drugs: Know the risks Next week’s episode will be “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:40:47

Rorschach w/ Jama Williamson

1/13/2026

This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6), discuss the horrific murder of Gabby Petito, and interview the delightful Jama Williamson. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Killing of Gabby Petito American Murder: Gabby Petito Forbes The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Gabby Petito Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:37:58

Chicago Crossover w/ Sophia Bush

1/6/2026

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU/ Chicago P.D. crossover episode, “Chicago Crossover” (Season 16, Episode 7). They dissect the horrific Norwich sexual abuse ring. Plus, they chat with the iconic Sophia Bush. SOURCES: BBC The Guardian Irish Mirror Duncan Lewis Solicitors WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Runaway Safeline Next week’s episode will be “Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:29:32

Wrath

12/30/2025

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the depressing episode,“Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Plus, they discuss “body farms” and "The St. Albans Poisoner,” Graham Young. SOURCES: FBI.gov All Criminal Justice Schools Wikipedia - Graham Young Biography.com The Times The Guardian WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Psychological Impact of Wrongful Imprisonment Next week’s episode will be “Chicago Crossover" (Season 16, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:54:56

Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? w/ Director Nancy Schwartzman

12/23/2025

This week, Kara and Liza do something a little different. Instead of an SVU episode, they cover the fascinating new docuseries “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Plus, they chat with director Nancy Schwartzman. SOURCES: CNN Wikipedia - Death of Ellen Greenberg Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? People WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? Next week’s episode will be “Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:23:26

Pop w/ Audrie Neenan

12/16/2025

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan. SOURCES: The New Yorker HuffPost ABC News New York Post Courthouse News Service Justia U.S. Law Los Angeles Times Duluth News Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: LiveYourDream.org Next week, Kara and Liza will be covering the docuseries, “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:02:32:21

Misleader

12/9/2025

This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College. SOURCES: Vanity Fair The New York Times Wikipedia - George Roche III Wikipedia - Hillsdale College National Review WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Toys For Tots Next week’s episode will be “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duration:01:47:12